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Post by BobCurry on Jan 23, 2022 20:07:12 GMT
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Post by benwells on Jan 27, 2022 2:32:02 GMT
Jane has taken some measurements at various regattas before, and I feel like we did something where we took the main halyard and put it at the front bow, and then the bottom of the stern, and used the amount of line difference to determine mast rake. I might have that way off on how she did it - Jane could explain it better. But my question is - what's the difference in that method vs what you have posted here? Is one more accurate?
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Post by BobCurry on Jan 27, 2022 11:38:42 GMT
Ben, hopefully I can answer your question.
The halyard method, or trapeze method in other classes, utilizes a rough boat to boat comparison. The beauty of it, as going through the boat park, you can see who is raked back the most/least. It's quick and you can do the fleet in a matter of minutes. This method will also vary with the amount of rig tension a boat has as you pull the halyard tight. The tape measure method gives your a number to be compared with going boat to boat. Instead of pulling the halyard to the side with a loose rig, essentially varying the length because of the rig sag allowing the halyard to move to the side you are on ever so slightly, the tape method is pulled straight back eliminating the rig sag. It simply depends how detailed you want to get with a measurement. Since both of my Waves are rigged identically (#111 and #57), I'll go out and take the halyard measurement and post for comparison. I chose the tape method because of the possible rig sag variance with the halyard method. Great question!!
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Post by BobCurry on Feb 27, 2022 1:25:14 GMT
Ben,
My apologies on the late reply to you about the halyard rake method.
I had the time today to string it out and by taking the halyard, touching the center of the front bow screw, walk it back to the transom. You should be approximately at the bottom of the transom. Hope this helps!!
Bob
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Post by eric611 on Mar 31, 2022 23:03:00 GMT
Last year I kept me rake at 19' 7" the whole year. I learned that my boat felt good in light air but if the wind went past 10mph, I struggled. I bought custom rigging this year so I will be remeasuring and playing around with more rake as conditions change.
Ben, your rig was at 19' 6" when Jane and I measured a bunch last year in Yankton.
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Post by RAFA on Jun 29, 2022 15:22:16 GMT
Im and older sailor (73) and enjoy technicalities...
The mast rake intel is really useful, thanks.
What about sag in the rigging? I tend to keep it loose but wish to know others views.
THANKS,
Rafa
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Post by benwells on Jul 22, 2022 2:16:22 GMT
Im and older sailor (73) and enjoy technicalities... The mast rake intel is really useful, thanks. What about sag in the rigging? I tend to keep it loose but wish to know others views. THANKS, Rafa I don't know. I think it's a lot of personal preference. I'm sure others who are much smarter than me will argue differently, but I can't honestly say that I've seen loose rigging vs tight rigging consistently preform better than the other.
I keep my rig pretty loose - like I can grab my loose side stay and turn my hand past 90 degrees.
Others that I regularly sail with are almost guitar string tight.
Sometimes they win. Sometimes I do. (I like to pretend I do more often  ) But the truth of the matter is I feel it's competitive and fair and I don't have a real advantage just based on my set up.
I'm a big believer that on the wave - the absolute best thing you can do is just get your head out of the boat, pay attention to the wind, and sail smartly.
Again - there are others on here that are smarter than me and will tell you why everything I just typed is wrong!
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Post by BobCurry on Jul 23, 2022 21:56:18 GMT
Ben and RAFA,
There is no wrong way to rig tune these things! It's all about what you get comfortable with and get used to sailing. It's really that simple!
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) But the truth of the matter is I feel it's competitive and fair and I don't have a real advantage just based on my set up.